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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by Moogle Stiltzkin » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:12 pm

P3R wrote:
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thx.

thought so. was just confused what they meant by fluid raid systems. never heard that term used before :'


hm anyway, seems there will be more ram capacity kits avaiable
G.Skill Unveils Their Ultra-Capacity, Quad-Channel DDR4 Memory Kits With Up To 256 GB Capacities
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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by occamsrazor » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:34 pm

QTS Hero beta version walkthrough....

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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by Moogle Stiltzkin » Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:08 pm

if i'm not mistaken, zfs only recently manage to add trim fo linux zfs is that correct? if so i wonder if they managed to add trim to this qts hero?

What is SSD TRIM, why is it useful, and how to check whether it is turned on

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In the last couple of years, solid state drives have increasingly gained popularity. It is also probable that you have read or at least heard someone else talking about how fast an SSD (Solid State Drive) is compared to traditional hard drives. If you are already using one or you want to buy an SSD to improve your computer's performance, you should know that TRIM support is essential. What is SSD TRIM, why does it matter for SSDs, and how do you check whether it is turned on, in Windows? You can find the answers to these questions, in this guide:

What is TRIM for SSD drives?
TRIM is a command with the help of which the operating system can tell the solid state drive (SSD) which data blocks are no longer needed and can be deleted, or are marked as free for rewriting. In other words, TRIM is a command that helps the operating system know precisely where the data that you want to move or delete is stored. That way, the solid state drive can access only the blocks holding the data. Furthermore, whenever a delete command is issued by the user or the operating system, the TRIM command immediately wipes the pages or blocks where the files are stored. This means that the next time the operating system tries to write new data in that area, it does not have to wait first to delete it.
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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by Moogle Stiltzkin » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:47 am

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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by adamyh » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:09 am

The license seems to be on sale here https://stage-software.qnap.com/qts-hero-edition.html

Will it run on my TS-451+ ?

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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by Trexx » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:39 am

Interesting. As for running on the ts-51+, it should as the ts-x51 was on the list

Now whether it runs WELL is a different discussion.


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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by adamyh » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:46 am

I might be tempted to give it a go! 😇🤣

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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by Moogle Stiltzkin » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:06 am

not mentioned here yet ?
https://software.qnap.com/nas.html?prod ... _limit=100

y r there 2 separate app stores for qnap, i'm confused :shock:


hm so if it doesn't work, and get random reboot, can refund? :'
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is qts hero a 4.4.1 thing? or can it be used with 4.3.6? i checked the notes but it does not mention this, so i'm unsure.
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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by adamyh » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:21 pm

From what I’ve seen here it is a new OS for the midrange QNAP NAS. They will continue to invest resources into 4.x it seems.

This is the video from QNAP announcing it. https://youtu.be/LQtqahHh4d4

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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by Moogle Stiltzkin » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:38 pm

did anyone managed to purchase the qts hero? i tried but payment method didn't work :'

Is stage-software.qnap a dev test site? cauz the paypal goes to a sandbox paypal :'
adamyh wrote:
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From what I’ve seen here it is a new OS for the midrange QNAP NAS. They will continue to invest resources into 4.x it seems.

This is the video from QNAP announcing it. https://youtu.be/LQtqahHh4d4
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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by adamyh » Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:06 pm

I haven’t tried it myself. It could be waiting for release and we stumbled upon a pre go live site.

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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by Trexx » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:22 am

Yup.. based onsite url, a prestaging area. Makes sense since new QTs hero firmware isn’t live yet.


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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by qrusher » Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:43 pm

https://stage-software.qnap.com/qts-hero-edition.html

Users can enjoy the powerful features of the ZFS file system after purchasing the QTS hero edition permanent software license. It can support up to 65536 snapshots, Snapsync, and Inline Data Deduplication. Inline Data Compression, Inline Data Compaction.
Support Model
TS-X89U TS-X88/TS-X88U TS-X85/TS-X85U TS-X83/TS-X83U TS-X80/TS-X80U TS-X82/TS-X82U TS-X77/TS-X77U TS-X72/TS-X72U TS-472XT TS-X73/TS-X73U TS-X63/TS-X63U TS-X53D TS-X53B/TS-X53BU TS-X51B TS-X51/TS-X51U QGD-1600

https://www.qnap.com/qts-hero/en/
QTS hero requires a NAS with at least 4GB memory.
Inline Data Deduplication requires a NAS with at least 8GB memory (at least 32GB memory is recommended for optimal performance).
QTS hero is not supported by dual-controller NAS systems.
As QTS and QTS hero use different file systems, the NAS system must be re-initialized before switching between QTS and QTS hero. Users must back up their data and system settings beforehand.

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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by Moogle Stiltzkin » Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:54 pm

awww... my ts-653a not supported :{

just wondering but.... this USD 59 perpetual license is that just for a single unit? or is this for a limited number of units that users possess? does anyone know?
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Re: QTS Hero... ZFS? What? When?

Post by P3R » Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:51 pm

Moogle Stiltzkin wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:54 pm
just wondering but.... this USD 59 perpetual license is that just for a single unit? or is this for a limited number of units that users possess?
If you close your eyes real hard, spin around three times slowly while repeating the phrase "Qnap are great!" then the license is valid to use for up to 3 NASes. If you fail to do that perfectly in any way, it's unfortunately only for a single unit.
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!

A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.

All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!

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