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Qsirch Uninstalled

Post by caliope » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:30 am

Upgraded the TS-451 to 8 GB from the factory install of 1 GB. Been meaning to do this for some time as I want to see how effective Virtualization is with running remote AI work.

Qsirch had complained since install that it needed more RAM. OK, so here are two reasons to upgrade the RAM.

Immediately after RAM upgrade, CPU at 90-100%. Culprit is QSirch indexing files. InterWeb search says that it could also be Malware. Have Malware Remover installed already.

After four solid days of sluggish response and 3.4 million files left to index, Qsirch says it is out of memory, please install more.

Found the uninstall button. Gone. CPU back to normal 10-40%

Qsirch looked like it could have been useful. Wonder if the app is really intended for a faster CPU (I7 perhaps)?
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Re: Qsirch Uninstalled

Post by Moogle Stiltzkin » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:34 am

1gb is most definitely not going to be enough for qsirch.

qsirch seems to work with 2-4gb, but i recommend installing 8gb ram these days. People who usually need more tend to use VMs, so they need more ram to split between the NAS and the VM.

Your ts-451 is using a Intel Celeron J1800, is a dual-core 64-bit SoC that can be considered a step up from the usual Intel Atom.
https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/storage/ ... ap-ts-451/


The ts-451+ uses a quad-core Intel Celeron J1900.
https://www.neowin.net/news/qnap-ts-451 ... as-device/
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/qn ... ,4342.html


I usually recommend the quad core intel celerons.
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/416/In ... J1900.html
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Celeron-J ... eron-J1800
Quad Core vs. Dual Core: Which is better?
It depends on what kind of applications you are running. If your applications allows you to break down the problem into “multiple parts”, then the higher the number of cores the faster it will run.

Higher number of cores will also allow you to run many programs simultaneously without being your computer running too slow. Think of playing a computer game while watching a video , communicating with someone and typing a document at the same time. You can do so with a dual core or a quad core but it might perform better with a quad core processor since each task can be assigned to one core at a time.

However, for most daily tasks and basic multitasking there won’t be much difference in performance from having more than two cores. You can safely buy a dual core processor over a quad core if you don’t plan on running any application that benefits from it.
https://laptopstudy.com/dual-core-quad- ... son-guide/


i'm not a code developer so no idea how they made qsirch, but these days a lot of apps are designed for multi threaded optimization (you can google yourself to check this. this is merely my assumption). quad core cpus is pretty standard these days.


this is exactly i don't recommend ARM, Annapura and perhaps atom cpus unless you only use them as backups with very few and light weight apps (probably just only HBS).


if i'm not mistaken, the interweb flagging could simply just be either false positive, or that a malware replaced and impersonated being the qsirch qpkg. QNAP does not release malware or malicious apps, i know this cause i used a bunch of them (from official appcenter) without issue.

you should install malware remover and run scans at least minimum weekly, and other common sense security precautions like not port forwarding your qnap to the internet, and not using lax security settings.

I'm using an AMD ryzen with no issues whatsoever running multiple apps. But this is a beast of a QNAP, and i don't expect everyone to be getting this high tier model necessarily.

I wonder what cpu utilization other users with the newer quad core intel celerons are getting for qsirch as a comparison :'



alternatives to qsirch is browsing your qnap shares via windows explorer (windows 10) from your pc client, then doing a search from there.

Or you can install on your pc client, something like treesize (which i notices works for QNAP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ri9HlhU474


Is there a way to display relative folder sizes visually on my NAS? ( Like WinDirStat for network drives. )
https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comme ... der_sizes/



one thing i like about the treesize approach is that it offers a visual que as to the root directories capacity being occupied as you navigate the sub folders. this is something qsirch lacks. but it's a paid for app.

windirstat is free. some of the other apps mentioned may also be free, not sure.

qsirch is good enough for most people, although there is definitely some further refinement that can be made.
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Re: Qsirch Uninstalled

Post by Moogle Stiltzkin » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:53 am

i have no idea if you're running out of ram occured before or after you upgraded to 8gb ram.

but 8gb ram should be more than enough.

if you open resource monitor, check if there is a pop up warning about memory swap. That will indicate your ram is full and now it's starting to use hdd as ram replace (which is not ideal because it is way slower than ram).

Usually if ram exceeds, either you have too little ram, or an app has a memory leak. make sure you use the latest stable qts.
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[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS (HDN724040ALE640) & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A w. 5x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) EXT4 Raid5
[Backup] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) single disks.
[^] QNAP TS-659 Pro II
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-228
[^] QNAP TS-128
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1

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