External USB Seagate Spin Down

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External USB Seagate Spin Down

Post by rcoodey » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:02 am

So I have read all the unfortunate posts that QTS does not support external USB drive spin down and it is up to the HDD manufacturer. Wanted to ask if anyone had any experience with a "Seagate Expansion 8TB Desktop External Hard Drive USB 3.0 (STEB8000100)" https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HAPGEIE/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1? I have two of them now that will not spin down when hooked to the NAS. Any ideas?

Seagate has a tool called "Seagate Drive Settings" that can set sleep times and such. The tool was not detecting my drives so I reached out to Seagate and found it does not work with Windows 10. But they also told me it would only change the settings while in Windows... the settings would not persist when unhooked and moved to another machine like the QNAP. Of course then they told me to contact QNAP for support. Can anyone confirm this tool does not work before I hunt down a Windows 7 computer?

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Re: External USB Seagate Spin Down

Post by dolbyman » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:34 am

it has been discussed several times before, the settings persist in the drive controller firmware, so the drives go to sleep (have set the settings and the drives (8TB) go to sleep on my qnap )

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Re: External USB Seagate Spin Down

Post by rcoodey » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:40 am

Thank you for confirming dolbyman, now to hunt down a Windows 7 computer...

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Re: External USB Seagate Spin Down

Post by rcoodey » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:16 am

So I borrowed a laptop with XP, installed the Seagate tools and changed the sleep time to 30 minutes. Don't think it is working though because the LED never goes off... it does when hooked to a Windows PC. Does you light go off? When I put my hand on it I'm not sure if its fully spun down, there is a very slight vibration it seems.

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Re: External USB Seagate Spin Down

Post by dolbyman » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:43 pm

I have the backup plus 8TB

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Backup-D ... B00R45V3SW

they go to sleep..as set in the windows program

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Re: External USB Seagate Spin Down

Post by rcoodey » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:05 am

Hmm, thanks for confirming. Slightly different model but would think they work the same. Not sure if I should trust they are sleeping or not since the LED does not go off. Wish Seagate had some documentation on the behavior of these things...

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Re: External USB Seagate Spin Down

Post by dolbyman » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:22 am

when I start a backhp job,i can hear them "wirr" up..so they definitely sleep

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Re: External USB Seagate Spin Down

Post by daibhidh » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:04 am

Hi guys. I am having this same issue with a 6tb seagate expansion drive, so that's for the info. I'll definitely try this. Out of interest, what hdd format do you use? NTFS or Ext4 etc? Many thanks!

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Re: External USB Seagate Spin Down

Post by dolbyman » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:34 am

doesnt matter what file system...settings have to be done with the windows tool

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Re: External USB Seagate Spin Down

Post by Rhoniel » Sun May 05, 2019 2:36 pm

Hello
I have a question about external USB drive connected to QNAP TS-231P and since people in this thread are knowledgeable about these issues, I thought I ask my question here.

If I access a USB connected drive directly (via a Windows mapped drive), would it wake up the hard drives installed in the NAS unit ?

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Re: External USB Seagate Spin Down

Post by dolbyman » Sun May 05, 2019 9:31 pm

not sure..try it out

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Re: External USB Seagate Spin Down

Post by Rhoniel » Tue May 07, 2019 7:48 pm

dolbyman wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 9:31 pm
not sure..try it out
I cannot try it out since I do not have a QNAP NAS.

I have a Synology NAS that I am thinking of getting rid of. I was looking to see if QNAP offers something more functional.

So here is the question again, If I access a USB connected drive directly (via a Windows mapped drive), would it wake up the hard drives installed in the NAS unit ?

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Re: External USB Seagate Spin Down

Post by dolbyman » Tue May 07, 2019 9:06 pm

I think you got an answer in the other thread you posted in

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Re: External USB Seagate Spin Down

Post by Rhoniel » Fri May 10, 2019 2:50 pm

The answer I receive in the other thread was :
QNAPDanielFL wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 12:13 am
If the OS is on the Spinning Drives then I expect the drives to spin when you access and external drive.
Its a hypothetical 'what if' answer. How about a real word situation answer; If I access a USB connected drive directly (via a Windows mapped drive), would it wake up the hard drives installed in the QNAP NAS unit?

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